Growth
Three years flat at $5M ARR
What a plateau feels like from inside the company, as opposed to how it reads on a chart.
Alex Turnbull4 min readGroove was flat at $5M arr for 3 years.
On a chart that's a horizontal line, and horizontal lines are boring, which is why nobody writes about them. Every growth post is about the up and to the right, or occasionally about the dramatic collapse. The flat years are the most common outcome in b2b saas and the least documented.
So here's what 3 years of flat actually feels like from the inside.
It doesn't feel like a plateau at the time
It feels like a series of unrelated quarters.
Q1 was soft because of a big churn. Q2 was fine. Q3 was soft because we shipped late. Q4 was fine. Each one has a story and each story is true, and every one of those stories is a reason it's not a trend.
You don't notice the line is flat until you zoom out far enough, and there's no natural moment that makes you zoom out. Board meetings force it on funded companies. Bootstrapped, nobody makes you look.
I looked properly somewhere in year 2. That's late.
The explanations I told myself
The market's mature. Help desks aren't a growth category anymore, everyone has one, we're fighting for switchers. Partly true. Also the exact thing you'd say if your product had stopped being differentiated.
We're profitable, which is the point. Also true, and this one is the most dangerous because it's the one that sounds like wisdom. Profitable and flat is a genuinely fine outcome for a lot of businesses. It's a terrible outcome if the reason you're flat is that the ground is moving.
We need to fix marketing. We tried this the hardest and it did the least. Turns out you can't market your way out of a product problem, which I could have told you in the abstract and did not believe about my own company.
We need a big feature. Shipped several. Retention improved slightly. The line stayed flat.
The one that turned out to be true was the one I got to last: the category was changing underneath us and our architecture couldn't follow. Everything else was a symptom.
What flat does to a team
This is the part nobody warns you about.
Good people leave during flat years, and they don't leave angry. They leave because there's nothing to be ambitious about. Promotion paths in a flat company are dead, the roadmap is maintenance with a coat of paint on it, and the best engineers can feel that before they can articulate it.
The people who stay adapt to the flatness, which is worse in some ways. Standards don't drop dramatically, they just stop rising. Nobody proposes anything big because the last 3 big things didn't move the number, and after a while proposing something big feels naive.
I contributed to that. When you've watched several initiatives fail to change the trajectory, you get quietly conservative about the next one, and the team reads it off you immediately.
What actually broke it
Deciding the flatness was structural rather than tactical.
18 months of trying to make Groove agentic, failing, and then starting over from zero with Helply. That's the version I've written about elsewhere. The relevant part here is that the flat years were the diagnosis period, and they took much longer than they should have because every individual quarter had a plausible local explanation.
If I'd zoomed out in year 1 instead of year 2, I'd have had an extra 12 months of runway to make the same call.
The useful thing about flat
A flat profitable business turns out to be an extraordinary asset when you decide to rebuild, which I did not expect.
Groove funds Helply now. 85% of R&D, 100% of marketing. That was only possible because the business was stable and generating cash. If Groove had been growing 40% a year I'd have had far too much to protect and I don't think I'd have had the nerve to start over. If it had been collapsing I wouldn't have had the money.
Flat is the condition that makes a rebuild affordable and makes it obvious. That's not a consolation, exactly. It's just what the years were for.
If you're in one
Two questions I'd ask earlier next time.
Is this flat because of execution, or because something structural has changed? Those need completely different responses and it takes real honesty to tell them apart, because execution is the flattering answer and it's the one you'll reach for.
And: how long have we been telling ourselves next quarter is different? If the answer is more than 4 quarters, that's your trend, not your excuse.
3 years. I could have known in 1.
I'm still figuring this stuff out too.
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